Post by susanz on Jan 10, 2006 19:43:44 GMT -5
I sent this message to the women's list in response from a question from Teresa to the women's league
Teresa"As you know, we had a meeting about what to do about the surface problems. There was no resolution but some options that are being looked into. Don't know how long this will take. What do you all want to do?
Continue trying to play every week?
Call the season off until the rink is fixed?
Switch to a weekend day time when there won't be a dew problem -- if so, which day works best for you?"
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Here is a brief summary of what I took from the meeting with Shaun and Tim and about 8 other hockey members last Thursday: (Please keep in mind that these are my personal notes and recollections.)
The Y spent $50,000 to have the floor installed. Apparently they received some grant monies which was to be used to make the rink multi-sport. (Basically, they want to be able to play soccer as well as hockey on the rink. They can get a lot of grant money if they offer soccer.)
Shaun met with Sport Court and told them what he wanted and they told him to install the floor we currently have. He said no other flooring options were presented to him (at any cost). When Sport Court's contractor came out to actually install the floor, there was a problem because the contractor didn't want to install the floor because he said it was the wrong tile. (In our meeting there was some discussion that the floor was actually supposed to be installed with a more breathable layer underneath, but that didn't happen. During the time of installation, Sport Court said the extra layer could be purchased for an additional $20,000.) The original flooring ended up being installed as originally purchased.
Shaun contacted Sport Court and was unable to get them to offer adequate solutions to the problem. He has not spoken with them since around March 2005.
Right now, the floor does not work for either Soccer nor Hockey when there is moisture on it. (Not a novel concept.)
It was discussed that Sport Court should come back to the Y and offer solutions. Tim O'Conner agreed to contact them and have them come out to the Y to discuss the problem/solutions before the end of January.
As I look at it, Sport Court did not deliver a product that could be utilized for it's intended purpose. As such, they are in breach of contract and should fix the problem. Since we are not flooring experts, they should be the ones to offer the solutions and actually fix the problem.
It was also discussed that we should get more educated on what other flooring options there are out there so we can better address Sport Court when they come in. This education includes contacting other flooring vendors to see what they offer and pros/cons of various solutions. In addition, we want to contact other rinks to find out what they utilize, what problems they have, how they solved their problems, etc.. I feel that this type of education should have been done before we spent the money on the court to begin with, but it's too late now and we must move forward. Lucia is heading up this effort of contacting vendors/other rinks. Anybody who would like to volunteer to make some calls and/or do some research is invited and encouraged.
I asked about just tearing up the floor and playing on the good old fashioned concrete like we did in the past. That suggestion was not recieved well because the Y won't be able to get it's soccer grant money.
I'm frustrated. Ultimately I just want to play hockey. (In the 9+ weeks I've been gone since my injury, I've only missed 2 games because of the poor rink conditions! Terrible!) I really want to play hockey, but don't want to waste my time and energy driving out to the rink only to be disappointed. A big part of me wants to just call of the season until the rink is fixed. However, I also have a tinge of trepidation that if we don't continue to play, that the Y will stop caring completely about hockey and only focus on finding a flooring solution that will accomodate soccer.
Susan
Teresa"As you know, we had a meeting about what to do about the surface problems. There was no resolution but some options that are being looked into. Don't know how long this will take. What do you all want to do?
Continue trying to play every week?
Call the season off until the rink is fixed?
Switch to a weekend day time when there won't be a dew problem -- if so, which day works best for you?"
*****************
Here is a brief summary of what I took from the meeting with Shaun and Tim and about 8 other hockey members last Thursday: (Please keep in mind that these are my personal notes and recollections.)
The Y spent $50,000 to have the floor installed. Apparently they received some grant monies which was to be used to make the rink multi-sport. (Basically, they want to be able to play soccer as well as hockey on the rink. They can get a lot of grant money if they offer soccer.)
Shaun met with Sport Court and told them what he wanted and they told him to install the floor we currently have. He said no other flooring options were presented to him (at any cost). When Sport Court's contractor came out to actually install the floor, there was a problem because the contractor didn't want to install the floor because he said it was the wrong tile. (In our meeting there was some discussion that the floor was actually supposed to be installed with a more breathable layer underneath, but that didn't happen. During the time of installation, Sport Court said the extra layer could be purchased for an additional $20,000.) The original flooring ended up being installed as originally purchased.
Shaun contacted Sport Court and was unable to get them to offer adequate solutions to the problem. He has not spoken with them since around March 2005.
Right now, the floor does not work for either Soccer nor Hockey when there is moisture on it. (Not a novel concept.)
It was discussed that Sport Court should come back to the Y and offer solutions. Tim O'Conner agreed to contact them and have them come out to the Y to discuss the problem/solutions before the end of January.
As I look at it, Sport Court did not deliver a product that could be utilized for it's intended purpose. As such, they are in breach of contract and should fix the problem. Since we are not flooring experts, they should be the ones to offer the solutions and actually fix the problem.
It was also discussed that we should get more educated on what other flooring options there are out there so we can better address Sport Court when they come in. This education includes contacting other flooring vendors to see what they offer and pros/cons of various solutions. In addition, we want to contact other rinks to find out what they utilize, what problems they have, how they solved their problems, etc.. I feel that this type of education should have been done before we spent the money on the court to begin with, but it's too late now and we must move forward. Lucia is heading up this effort of contacting vendors/other rinks. Anybody who would like to volunteer to make some calls and/or do some research is invited and encouraged.
I asked about just tearing up the floor and playing on the good old fashioned concrete like we did in the past. That suggestion was not recieved well because the Y won't be able to get it's soccer grant money.
I'm frustrated. Ultimately I just want to play hockey. (In the 9+ weeks I've been gone since my injury, I've only missed 2 games because of the poor rink conditions! Terrible!) I really want to play hockey, but don't want to waste my time and energy driving out to the rink only to be disappointed. A big part of me wants to just call of the season until the rink is fixed. However, I also have a tinge of trepidation that if we don't continue to play, that the Y will stop caring completely about hockey and only focus on finding a flooring solution that will accomodate soccer.
Susan